Sunday, January 22, 2017

The Problem With Argumentation Ethics

Sunday, March 15, 2009


Over at the Mises Institute, Stephan Kinsella has made a post about Hans Hoppe's "argumentation ethics" case for libertarianism, and expressed his support for such an approach. The post also links to various criticisms of "argumentation ethics" ranging from David Friedman to Douglass Rasmusen. I find such criticisms to mostly be spot on. However, I prefer to critisize "argumentation ethics" in my own words, so I left some commentary on the blogpost thus:

"The fact of the matter is that the NAP, self-ownership and property rights
are not axoimatic in that they are not irreducable first principles. They are
derived from and intertwined with other principles. They cannot be reasonably
substantiated without reference to other concepts, and hence they cannot be
substantiated as axoimatic goods "in themselves". 

I also went on to tackle the issue from the standpoint of the problem of "self-ownership" as a dualism:

I also cannot help but put foreward a problem I see with an ontological
concept of "self-ownership", as in the descriptive statement that "you own
yourself" or "I own myself", aside from the fact that it should not be conflated
with "self-ownership" in an ethical sense (I can ontologically have
"self-ownership" while being a slave). 
While there definitely is a lot more that I can say on this topic, this generally foreshadows what my criticism of axoimatic libertarianism in "Reconstructing Libertarianism" is going to be based on. While argumentation and purposeful action in general may be a prerequisite for rights in a sense, rights as such cannot be conflated with the act of argumentation itself. A systematic and specific libertarian conception of rights is not inherently implicit in argumentation - argumentation must be used to establish it. In fact, the moment that one goes on to formally make an extended argument, one has implicitly disproven argumentation ethics in that clearly one's premises have not been sufficiently proven by the mere fact that an argument is taking place. These are not necessarily irreducable first principles. Argumentation ethics, much like Stefan Molyneux's "UPB", actually ends up being a possible tool to hijack argumentation, as a sort of simple "driveby argument winner" that ignores the content of people's arguments.

Roderick Long left a short yet telling comment on Kinsella's blogpost:
"I accept universalisability, but I think it needs to be grounded in something; it's not a self-evident starting-point."In other words, while universalizability can perhaps be done through argumentation, the act of argumentation itself does not necessarily universalize anything. The value of universality itself has to be established through argumentation as well. We cannot just assume that our principles are universal by mere virtue of the fact that argumentation takes place. So there is a sense in which argumentation inherently must precede the principles. In the process of argumentation we may discover or make use of other principles. The principles are not a metaphysical given upon the mere fact that people argue, and they do not exist in a contextless vacuum.

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